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Chuck Guillory Interview

“Since I was four, five years old I liked music. I’d rather play music than eat.”

“George Jones, I’m the one who put him where he’s at…That man was poor. He begged me to play. I didn’t need him, I had a 7 piece band. I hired him anyway…five dollars a night…After the dance he would just sleep on the table ‘til daybreak and get a ride back to Beaumont.” – Chuck Guillory

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Interviewee: Chuck Guillory
Interviewer: Chris Strachwitz
Date: Oct 1, 1987
Location: Phone call from California to Louisiana
Language: English

To learn more about Chuck Guillory, listen to his interview in the Ann Savoy Collection

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For the complete history of the song “Grand Texas” visit the Early Cajun Music Blog

Chuck Guillory Interview Transcript:

Chuck Guillory:

Hello.

Chris Strachwitz:

Hey Chuck, this is Chris Strachwitz out in California, how are you doing?

Chuck Guillory:

Oh, great.

Chris Strachwitz:

Yeah.

Chuck Guillory:

How are we doing? Great?

Chris Strachwitz:

I’m doing pretty good I’m glad you called me, because I forgot to ever get a chance to have a little talk with you about your background, where you started and all that kind of … What is your real name? Is it Chuck Guillory or …

Chuck Guillory:

Yeah, that’s the way I want it on there.

Chris Strachwitz:

But your actual name is Murphy? Murphy Chuck Guillory?

Chuck Guillory:

Murphy Chuck Guillory.

Chris Strachwitz:

Where were you born at?

Chuck Guillory:

Mamou.

Chris Strachwitz:

In Mamou?

Chuck Guillory:

Yeah.

Chris Strachwitz:

What’s your birthday can I know?

Chuck Guillory:

Oh yeah, 1919.

Chris Strachwitz:

1919, what’s the day and the month?

Chuck Guillory:

The 16th.

Chris Strachwitz:

Which month?

Chuck Guillory:

August the 16th.

Chris Strachwitz:

August 16th so …

Chuck Guillory:

1919.

Chris Strachwitz:

Aha, so you just hit a birthday not too long ago.

Chuck Guillory:

Yeah.

Chris Strachwitz:

How did you get into fiddling?

Chuck Guillory:

Well, my old man used to tell, Chris.

Chris Strachwitz:

Mm-hmm (affirmative)?

Chuck Guillory:

But he didn’t teach me. He used to hire a sitter, I used to climb the whole time, you know? I used to steal his violin and come down and practice by myself and put it back up, you know?

Chris Strachwitz:

Mm-hmm (affirmative), but he did play pretty good, huh?

Chuck Guillory:

Oh yeah, he was a pretty good fiddle.

Chris Strachwitz:

How old were you when you first started playing with it?

Chuck Guillory:

Started playing that at eight years old.

Chris Strachwitz:

I’ll be darned. Was your father a farmer or …

Chuck Guillory:

Farmer.

Chris Strachwitz:

Did he play dances or …

Chuck Guillory:

Yeah, he played dance with me until I had to let him go. He couldn’t tolerate me no more.

Chris Strachwitz:

What was his name?

Chuck Guillory:

Madui Guillory. M-A-D-U-I.

Chris Strachwitz:

Madui, ah.

Chuck Guillory:

Madui, M-A-D-U-I.

Chris Strachwitz:

But he never recorded, did he?

Chuck Guillory:

No.

Chris Strachwitz:

How did you get to start playing dances? Was it did people kept asking for it?

Chuck Guillory:

I start playing the dance and he was playing with me, no?

Chris Strachwitz:

Mm-hmm (affirmative), and that was all around Mamou you started playing?

Chuck Guillory:

Well we play all over them place, close to Lake Charles and all.

Chris Strachwitz:

Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Chuck Guillory:

The most time, hall you know, country hall. No fan, we didn’t have no fan. You talk about sweat. I remember that good, Chris. It wasn’t like right now, you know? Right now the air condition, Saturday night we played Natchez Mississippi.

Chris Strachwitz:

Oh, just this past Saturday?

Chuck Guillory:

Yeah, last Saturday past.

Chris Strachwitz:

Oh I see.

Chuck Guillory:

Last Saturday yeah, Natchez Mississippi.

Chris Strachwitz:

Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Chuck Guillory:

My whole band. Cairo and I, we had a bass.

Chris Strachwitz:

Okay, let me … How did you happen to make those records, back I guess in the late ’40s, was it, when you made …

Chuck Guillory:

Yeah, me and Cairo?

Chris Strachwitz:

Yeah.

Chuck Guillory:

Well we made that in New Orleans.

Chris Strachwitz:

Mm-hmm (affirmative). Who was the man that came and did it?

Chuck Guillory:

Chris, I don’t remember. He was a dago. Yeah, he make me cut a Tolan more- I think it was eight to 10 times, so I started talking in French in there, you know? So he answer in French. He said, “I can’t speak French yet.” I was cussing, you know, so we all make a laugh at that. It went all right.

Chris Strachwitz:

How did you … What made you decide … Were you ever tempted to play accordion, or was it fiddle always your …

Chuck Guillory:

The fiddle. That’s my music.

Chris Strachwitz:

Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Chuck Guillory:

Chris. It’s the fiddle.

Chris Strachwitz:

How would you put that. What’s the kind of sound that you like?

Chuck Guillory:

I like the French. I like French number on the fiddle.

Chris Strachwitz:

Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Chuck Guillory:

Yeah and country and western on the fiddle, rock and roll, I can play anything they want. But like Saturday night we played, asked me but oh maybe 20 or 25 French numbers. We know them all, I know them all. And we played.

Chris Strachwitz:

Oh, okay.

Chuck Guillory:

Everyone there, we played.

Chris Strachwitz:

Do you remember the time when the accordion first came in or was it always fiddles where you grew up?

Chuck Guillory:

Yeah, I remember. I used to play. I made a couple of song with Milton Molitor, Chris.

Chris Strachwitz:

Oh yeah, that’s right. Was that for-

Chuck Guillory:

…I record that, me and him.

Chris Strachwitz:

Was that for Doctor Harry Oster?

Chuck Guillory:

No, we record that in Opelousas.

Chris Strachwitz:

Oh, he made some records up in Op …

Chuck Guillory:

Yeah, we made some, we cut that up in Opelousas.

Chris Strachwitz:

Milton Molitor …

Chuck Guillory:

Waltz and the- two step, I think it’s two, three record I record with that band, but he’s gone. He died.

Chris Strachwitz:

Mm-hmm (affirmative), he was the singer, huh?

Chuck Guillory:

Yeah, he sing high, high.

Chris Strachwitz:

Yeah, he was a good singer, I remember.

Chuck Guillory:

Oh yeah, he was one of the best accordion players I ever heard.

Chris Strachwitz:

Mm-hmm (affirmative), that was before you made your own? Or no, afterwards?

Chuck Guillory:

No, before.

Chris Strachwitz:

Before, mm-hmm (affirmative). Do you remember who that was for, but?

Chuck Guillory:

No, Chris, I don’t remember.

Chris Strachwitz:

Don’t remember that.

Chuck Guillory:

In fact, I can find, though I can find out. People around here …

Chris Strachwitz:

I think I may have the record, I’ll just have to look for it under Milton Molitor’s name.

Chuck Guillory:

Yeah, Milton Molitor.

Chris Strachwitz:

And then when that … What was your biggest seller, was that the Grand Texas?

Chuck Guillory:

Yeah Big Texas and Tolan Waltz.

Chris Strachwitz:

The Tolan Waltz, mm-hmm (affirmative).

Chuck Guillory:

And then me and Jimmy we record Chere Petite and I don’t remember, we recorded a lot of records.

Chris Strachwitz:

You also backed up Jimmy Newman?

Chuck Guillory:

Oh yes. Jimmy played for me, I’m the one put him where he’s at there.

Chris Strachwitz:

Ah, I see, I see. Oh you started him?

Chuck Guillory:

Oh yes, Chris, I’m not lying to you.

Chris Strachwitz:

Mm-hmm (affirmative)?

Chuck Guillory:

George Jones I’m the one put him where he’s at there.

Chris Strachwitz:

Oh is that right?

Chuck Guillory:

George Jones, I used to pay him, I had my full band, that man was poor and he begged me to play. I didn’t need him, I had a seven piece band. I hired him anyway. Five dollar a night.

Chris Strachwitz:

Where was that at?

Chuck Guillory:

In Lake Charles.

Chris Strachwitz:

In Lake Charles.

Chuck Guillory:

He used to live in Beaumont, him.

Chris Strachwitz:

Oh, he came from Beaumont?

Chuck Guillory:

On the ride, a ride.

Chris Strachwitz:

Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Chuck Guillory:

No car. And then cheap guitar, his box was all busted. After the dance, Chris, I want you to put that on the paper, wherever you want.

Chris Strachwitz:

I will.

Chuck Guillory:

After the dance, he used to sleep on the table until daybreak and get a ride back to Beaumont.

Chris Strachwitz:

Is that right…

Chuck Guillory:

Oh yeah, I’m not … That’s right, yeah.

Chris Strachwitz:

That was George Jones, about what year was that, do you remember? Was that before the war ended, or after the war?

Chuck Guillory:

After the war.

Chris Strachwitz:

After the war, yeah.

Chuck Guillory:

Oh yeah, you can put that. Hey, I can guarantee you it’s right.

Chris Strachwitz:

Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Chuck Guillory:

Not pulling your leg.

Chris Strachwitz:

You had a seven piece band. What club were you working at?

Chuck Guillory:

At the Silver Star.

Chris Strachwitz:

At the Silver Star in Lake Charles. And who did you have in your band, do you remember some of the guys?

Chuck Guillory:

I had Jimmy.

Chris Strachwitz:

What did he play, guitar?

Chuck Guillory:

Guitar, yes. I have a piano player, his name is … Let me see, he live in Baton Rouge now, he don’t play no more. Then I have Tommy Gonslei in trumpet.

Chris Strachwitz:

What was his name? Tommy? Tommy Flannagan?

Chuck Guillory:

No, Gonslei.

Chris Strachwitz:

Gonslei?

Chuck Guillory:

Gonslei, yeah. Gonslei.

Chris Strachwitz:

Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Chuck Guillory:

On the trumpet. Then I had Curzy on the drum.

Chris Strachwitz:

Oh yeah, ol’ Porkchop.

Chuck Guillory:

Porkchop. Then I had a bass fiddle, Tom [Leclaud 00:07:54] or something like that, but he’s dead. Then there’s Duhon.

Chris Strachwitz:

Who was that.

Chuck Guillory:

Bass fiddle.

Chris Strachwitz:

Oh, he was a Duhon?

Chuck Guillory:

Yeah. He died.

Chris Strachwitz:

And would you play mostly French pieces at that time or half and half?

Chuck Guillory:

Half and half, Chris.

Chris Strachwitz:

Mm-hmm (affirmative), they like the country music a lot too?

Chuck Guillory:

Oh yeah, they like it.

Chris Strachwitz:

Did George Jones sing with you at that time?

Chuck Guillory:

Oh yes.

Chris Strachwitz:

Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Chuck Guillory:

He sang English number.

Chris Strachwitz:

I’ll be darned.

Chuck Guillory:

But he didn’t write no song that time. He was singing the song was out, all them record was out.

Chris Strachwitz:

Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Chuck Guillory:

But he was good. I knew he was going somewhere.

Chris Strachwitz:

How long after that did he start making records?

Chuck Guillory:

Oh Chris, about a year, I think about a year and a half two years after that.

Chris Strachwitz:

Mm-hmm (affirmative), something like that. And then Jimmy Newman, he also wasn’t known at that time, was he?

Chuck Guillory:

Jimmy, when I hire him.

Chris Strachwitz:

Yeah?

Chuck Guillory:

He didn’t know where to start, when to quit, he didn’t know nothing.

Chris Strachwitz:

I see.

Chuck Guillory:

At the time I was playing every night.

Chris Strachwitz:

Did you play fiddle on those things that he cut for Khoury for George Khoury?

Chuck Guillory:

I think so.

Chris Strachwitz:

Oh you did? I’ll have to listen to that. Because I think he made that his first records for Khoury didn’t he?

Chuck Guillory:

I think I did, Chris.

Chris Strachwitz:

Mm-hmm (affirmative). I forgot the name of it, but it was one or two numbers, I think. And then what’s your … How you’ve been making a living since then? Did the music kind of go down a little bit after that or …

Chuck Guillory:

Well, yeah, the music went down. You know, opened a big store here in my home town.

Chris Strachwitz:

Oh, you have a store there in Mamou?

Chuck Guillory:

Yeah, for 27 years.

Chris Strachwitz:

Oh really? What’s the name of it?

Chuck Guillory:

Guillory Superette. I made my pocket full. Then I just sold it again, Chris.

Chris Strachwitz:

You …

Chuck Guillory:

I had to close it at six, seven year. I didn’t need it anymore. I closed it.

Chris Strachwitz:

Oh, you just closed it.

Chuck Guillory:

I remodeled, then I just sold it last week.

Chris Strachwitz:

So you can retire now.

Chuck Guillory:

I didn’t need it anymore, you know? I kept some lying on the left side there. You never came to my house? I don’t think so.

Chris Strachwitz:

No, I don’t think I ever did. I think the first time I met you I came to the store, actually, I came to that Superette.

Chuck Guillory:

Yeah?

Chris Strachwitz:

I believe so.

Chuck Guillory:

On the north side I got two big lots and I got the street and everything. I kept that, I didn’t sell that. Put some … I got a trailer already on there, I’ll put maybe another one there.

Chris Strachwitz:

Oh good. And have you known old Preston for a long time?

Chuck Guillory:

Oh Lord, yeah.

Chris Strachwitz:

He goes …

Chuck Guillory:

The man is doing good. He played Saturday, I got to watch him, you know? I’ve got to watch him, because he’s like a kid.

Chris Strachwitz:

Yeah, he’s … So he don’t drink too much, huh?

Chuck Guillory:

That’s right, I got to watch him, but he play some music. You can’t find better than that. But you watch him. You’ve got to watch him.

Chris Strachwitz:

That’s right, yeah. Well good, so you still have an opportunity to play on weekends sometimes when …

Chuck Guillory:

Oh yeah, we play all we want, Chris.

Chris Strachwitz:

Oh really? Good.

Chuck Guillory:

Listen, that’s one thing I want to ask you.

Chris Strachwitz:

Mm-hmm (affirmative)?

Chuck Guillory:

If you see something for us over there, we’ll go. Help us out over there.

Chris Strachwitz:

Oh yeah, well I’ll try, but it’s hard with all these young bands coming in here trying to play for nothing. It’s hard to get any money out of anybody.

Chuck Guillory:

Yeah, it be a different style though, if we go over there.

Chris Strachwitz:

That’s true. Any of your brothers and sisters play music, or are you kind of the only one?

Chuck Guillory:

No, I got one of my brothers, Bernard, he used to play a little bit of violin, but not good.

Chris Strachwitz:

Not real good?

Chuck Guillory:

No, he used to play a few songs, you know? But me and my old man.

Chris Strachwitz:

What would you say … Why did you start playing music?

Chuck Guillory:

I don’t know, Chris. Every time since I’m four, five years old I like music.

Chris Strachwitz:

Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Chuck Guillory:

And I’m still I like music. I’d rather play music than eat. It’s true. My wife say, what’s the matter with you? I say, I like that.

Chris Strachwitz:

Yeah?

Chuck Guillory:

I got three television over here, and I just got this … You know we got this race coming up the 24th?

Chris Strachwitz:

Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Chuck Guillory:

Send me a Gazette in the mail, one of my governor, Billy Tauzin, he’s running for governor, he talk about some good music. I just got it in there yesterday. I playing. I got my radio in my truck and in her car wide open all the time. I enjoy music.

Chris Strachwitz:

Who did you like when you were growing up? Who did you listen behind?

Chuck Guillory:

Well, some of them boys they’re all gone. Leo Soileau. You remember that?

Chris Strachwitz:

Oh yeah.

Chuck Guillory:

You remember Leo? Harry Choates. I like Harry Choates.

Chris Strachwitz:

Did you ever see him play?

Chuck Guillory:

Oh yes. I won the contest, one Saturday in Eunice.

Chris Strachwitz:

Oh really?

Chuck Guillory:

Yeah, one Saturday at 12:00 they had contest, violin contest, I won everybody there.

Chris Strachwitz:

When was it, you remember the year or something?

Chuck Guillory:

Chris … If I tell you I lie to you. It’s a good while back.

Chris Strachwitz:

Yeah, I know.

Chuck Guillory:

It was about …

Chris Strachwitz:

Shortly after the second war was it?

Chuck Guillory:

Yeah, it was about 50 year.

Chris Strachwitz:

Yeah, it’s a long time ago, huh?

Chuck Guillory:

55 year. But it was a contest.

Chris Strachwitz:

Who put on the contest?

Chuck Guillory:

The mayor of Eunice.

Chris Strachwitz:

Oh really?

Chuck Guillory:

And the one who won the contest, he had to play the dance that night.

Chris Strachwitz:

Ah, I see.

Chuck Guillory:

You understand?

Chris Strachwitz:

Yeah.

Chuck Guillory:

For the same price. They had him cash that. But in these days it was a lot of money, I think it was $50. $50 if you win the first prize, then you have to play at the dance.

Chris Strachwitz:

Mm-hmm (affirmative), who else was in the contest, do you remember, besides Harry Choates?

Chuck Guillory:

Leo Soileau also was there.

Chris Strachwitz:

Oh he was there?

Chuck Guillory:

And Alius Soileau. I don’t think you …

Chris Strachwitz:

Oh yes, I’ve heard of him.

Chuck Guillory:

He was there too. Leo, they was cousins.

Chris Strachwitz:

Oh they were cousins, I wasn’t quite sure how they were related, yeah.

Chuck Guillory:

Yeah. So you know important people, huh?

Chris Strachwitz:

Oh yeah, I’ve heard some of their records.

Chuck Guillory:

Oh yeah?

Chris Strachwitz:

Yeah. And he made some discs together with Leo.

Chuck Guillory:

Mm-hmm (affirmative), yes.

Chris Strachwitz:

I’ve been having a hard time finding them …

Chuck Guillory:

My brother in law, he’s gone, hold on, I forgot his name. How do you like that? My brother in law, he’s dead these five, six years.

Chris Strachwitz:

Oh was it …

Chuck Guillory:

Isaac Soileau.

Chris Strachwitz:

Oh Isaac Soileau, mm-hmm (affirmative).

Chuck Guillory:

He was there too.

Chris Strachwitz:

Was Cheese Read there or somebody like that?

Chuck Guillory:

No, Cheese wasn’t … I don’t think he was good enough to be in the …

Chris Strachwitz:

He wasn’t quite the …

Chuck Guillory:

No, he wasn’t there to play fiddle.

Chris Strachwitz:

But those were it, the Soileaus, three Soileaus, huh?

Chuck Guillory:

Yeah Soileau. Alius, Leo and Isaac.

Chris Strachwitz:

Mm-hmm (affirmative), and then Harry Choates came over from … Where was he living at the time?

Chuck Guillory:

Sulphur.

Chris Strachwitz:

In Sulphur? Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Chuck Guillory:

Yeah.

Chris Strachwitz:

I guess Luderin Darbone wasn’t playing much at that time?

Chuck Guillory:

No, Luderin wasn’t there.

Chris Strachwitz:

Mm-hmm (affirmative), that was the real cajun stuff, huh?

Chuck Guillory:

You remember Luderin pretty good?

Chris Strachwitz:

Oh yeah, I know him real well, yeah.

Chuck Guillory:

He was very good in that time.

Chris Strachwitz:

Yeah, he sure was, yeah. Him and his Hackberry Ramblers, yeah. I liked the way Lennis sang.

Chuck Guillory:

Yeah.

Chris Strachwitz:

He was a good singer.

Chuck Guillory:

I like him. They used to play here- at this hall, they used to play at our hall in Mamou and I used to go listen to them.

Chris Strachwitz:

Oh yeah, what was the name of the hall?

Chuck Guillory:

Cazo? Cazo Fontenot Hall.

Chris Strachwitz:

Cazo Fontenot.

Chuck Guillory:

Cazo, it’s a French name, Cazo Fontenot Hall, they used to play there. No fan.

Chris Strachwitz:

No …

Chuck Guillory:

Open window outside, you know the mall door?

Chris Strachwitz:

Did you grow up speaking French pretty much?

Chuck Guillory:

Oh yeah.

Chris Strachwitz:

When did you learn English?

Chuck Guillory:

When I went to school.

Chris Strachwitz:

Mm-hmm (affirmative), in school.

Chuck Guillory:

Hard time. I had to walk 15 miles to go to school.

Chris Strachwitz:

Oh boy, really?

Chuck Guillory:

Yeah, walk, and a piece of cornbread and a little pint of milk. We was raised, we were seven in the family.

Chris Strachwitz:

And that was way out in the country?

Chuck Guillory:

Way out in the country, go to school, play dance to raise my family. I’m the one that raise them all.

Chris Strachwitz:

Oh really? Oh boy.

Chuck Guillory:

At that time I used to go in Eunice, me and my old man play in them saloon. Nick’s bar.

Chris Strachwitz:

Which one?

Chuck Guillory:

Nick.

Chris Strachwitz:

Nick’s …

Chuck Guillory:

Nick Ferro bar.

Chris Strachwitz:

Nick’s Ferro?

Chuck Guillory:

Yeah, that’s a dago.

Chris Strachwitz:

He’s Italian?

Chuck Guillory:

Dago, yeah.

Chris Strachwitz:

F-E-R-R-O?

Chuck Guillory:

Yes.

Chris Strachwitz:

Like …

Chuck Guillory:

Nick Ferro, yes.

Chris Strachwitz:

Okay, his bar. That was in Eunice?

Chuck Guillory:

In Eunice, right on Main Street. It’s still there, the bar’s still there.

Chris Strachwitz:

Oh really?

Chuck Guillory:

Oh yeah, it’s wide open.

Chris Strachwitz:

Huh.

Chuck Guillory:

We used to go, Chris, every Saturday afternoon. I was seven and a half years old.

Chris Strachwitz:

I’ll be darned.

Chuck Guillory:

We used to sit down there, me and my old man, we used to pick up $10, $15 every Saturday.

Chris Strachwitz:

I’ll be darned.

Chuck Guillory:

Quarter and nickel and dime. That was money in that time.

Chris Strachwitz:

Yeah, that was in the mid 1920s.

Chuck Guillory:

Yes.

Chris Strachwitz:

Would you just have the two fiddles, that’d be it?

Chuck Guillory:

Two fiddles that time. Just for entertain them people in the …

Chris Strachwitz:

Yeah, did you father sing or …

Chuck Guillory:

No, no.

Chris Strachwitz:

Both of you just played?

Chuck Guillory:

Yeah, but I used to sing a little bit.

Chris Strachwitz:

Oh you did? I see.

Chuck Guillory:

I’m the one sing in Tolan Waltz.

Chris Strachwitz:

Oh you sing the Tolan Waltz? Oh that’s right. Oh yeah.

Chuck Guillory:

Yeah.

Chris Strachwitz:

Mm-hmm (affirmative). And then you … Where did you go from that bar? Did you play there for many years or …

Chuck Guillory:

No, we didn’t play too long there.

Chris Strachwitz:

Didn’t do too long, huh?

Chuck Guillory:

No. Then I start playing dance.

Chris Strachwitz:

Then you start playing dance.

Chuck Guillory:

Eight years old, nine, 10, then I went up higher.

Chris Strachwitz:

Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Chuck Guillory:

Then I had to let the old man go. He couldn’t follow me no more, and I had to get better musicians, you know?

Chris Strachwitz:

You got better than him, huh?

Chuck Guillory:

Yeah, that’s right. You know it’s bad when you’ve got to let your old man go.

Chris Strachwitz:

Yeah.

Chuck Guillory:

But I had to.

Chris Strachwitz:

Mm-hmm (affirmative). Well that’s an interesting story, well I think I got enough, and I think …

Chuck Guillory:

Okay, you talk pretty good with Cairo at the …

Chris Strachwitz:

Yeah, I got some story on him, you know …

Chuck Guillory:

Yeah, he got some big story too. Well, we had a good time, Chris, Saturday. I drove all the way to over there. All the way gone.

Chris Strachwitz:

Mm-hmm (affirmative)?

Chuck Guillory:

Then Cairo drove all the way back.

Chris Strachwitz:

Oh he did, yeah?

Chuck Guillory:

We came back at 5:00 Sunday morning.

Chris Strachwitz:

Was it a concert or dance?

Chuck Guillory:

Dance, dance.

Chris Strachwitz:

Okay. Oh good.

Chuck Guillory:

5000, 6000 people.

Chris Strachwitz:

Oh really? So it’s catching up in Mississippi?

Chuck Guillory:

Oh yeah, they call it little Las Vegas. They’ve got slot machines.

Chris Strachwitz:

Oh is that right?

Chuck Guillory:

And they’ve got card games. They’ve got dice game, they’ve got anything you want.

Chris Strachwitz:

Oh they got something …

Chuck Guillory:

It’s on a big hill, Chris.

Chris Strachwitz:

What’s the name of the town?

Chuck Guillory:

Natchez, Mississippi.

Chris Strachwitz:

Oh up in Natchez? I’ll be darned.

Chuck Guillory:

Slot machine, they got some a dollar, 50 cents, a quarter, you’ve got to stand in line to play.

Chris Strachwitz:

I’ll be darned.

Chuck Guillory:

They call it little Las Vegas, but the name of the place we playing at, we’re going to play every 15 days.

Chris Strachwitz:

Oh is that right?

Chuck Guillory:

It’s the … I name it a while ago, I’m bad for names. That’s a big place.

Chris Strachwitz:

Is it a big hall with …

Chuck Guillory:

Big, yeah. You got the restaurant in there, you got your slot machine, you got … Anything you want you’ve got.

Chris Strachwitz:

Oh really?

Chuck Guillory:

[inaudible 00:19:33] how far is that, Chris?

Chris Strachwitz:

California?

Chuck Guillory:

Yeah, where you live.

Chris Strachwitz:

It’s about 2000 miles from where you live.

Chuck Guillory:

Oh Lord …

Chris Strachwitz:

Yeah, it’s a long ways.

Chuck Guillory:

Yeah. I saw it on TV they got a big … You saw that on TV, earthquake?

Chris Strachwitz:

Yeah, they had an earthquake down in Los Angeles today. Yeah, but I’m way north, I’m about 500 miles north of there.

Chuck Guillory:

Oh, it didn’t touch y’all?

Chris Strachwitz:

No, it didn’t touch us up here, no.

Chuck Guillory:

Okay, Chris.

Chris Strachwitz:

All right, well thanks a lot.

Chuck Guillory:

Okay then.

Chris Strachwitz:

Good, bye, bye.

Chuck Guillory:

Bye.

Chris Strachwitz:

Bye.